Podcast Episode 50

Episode 050 39 min

Alan Braithwaite, Co-Founder and CTO at RunReveal: SIEM doesn't have to suck

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Episode 50 of The Security Podcast of Silicon Valley. Host Jon McLachlan, co-founder of YSecurity, talks with Alan Braithwaite, co-founder and chief technology officer of RunReveal, the security data platform he started with Evan Johnson after the two met at Cloudflare. Recorded weeks after Palo Alto Networks agreed to buy IBM's QRadar business and Exabeam and LogRhythm agreed to merge, the conversation covers why every SIEM buyer ends up with five tools for one job, why RunReveal chose to build on ClickHouse rather than build a database, how a honeypot company became a security data platform when its founders squinted at their own pipeline, bring-your-own-database and data residency, a first raise sized on purpose, and Slaughterhouse-Five. Twenty-five months after the episode was published, ClickHouse acquired RunReveal. Published July 19, 2024. About 39 minutes.

Episode notes

Alan Braithwaite, Co-Founder and CTO of RunReveal, shares his journey from Cloudflare to co-founding RunReveal, discussing how his company is revolutionizing the security landscape by making threat detection faster and easier.

Hosted by Jon McLachlan — co-founder of YSecurity.

The deep dive

The product is not the data

In the summer of 2024, weeks after the two biggest SIEM deals of the year landed on the same afternoon, Alan Braithwaite told me RunReveal would never build its own database and that the thing customers pay for is the detection, not the data. Twenty-five months after we published, the database bought the product: ClickHouse acquired RunReveal, eleven weeks after Databricks agreed to buy Panther. Here is what Alan said, what the record shows since, the number behind every deal on the tape, and four tools you can run against your own logging setup.

Nine minutes into this conversation Alan Braithwaite said the sentence that, two years later, reads like a prophecy with the sign flipped.

“And so we’re taking a very product-first approach to this problem. And we’re not building the database, which gives us a huge advantage. We can really just focus on what security teams and detection and response engineers need in order to give them the value that they’re looking for out of a tool like this.”

Alan Braithwaite, co-founder and chief technology officer of RunReveal, at 8:36

The database he was not building is ClickHouse. On September 1, 2026, ClickHouse bought RunReveal (RunReveal, ClickHouse). Eleven weeks earlier Databricks had agreed to buy Panther, the other security data platform built by engineers who got tired of their SIEM (Reuters, via Yahoo Finance). Alan’s bet in 2024 was that a security company should sit on top of somebody else’s database. The market’s answer in 2026 was that the databases wanted the security companies.

Listen · Alan on episode 50, from 22:52
About 28 seconds: the key insight, in Alan's words. The clip stops on its own. Read the full transcript.

This page is what I wish I had known before we hit record, plus everything that has happened since. Alan and I met at Cloudflare through a mutual friend, and the show notes for this episode were 32 words long, which is not what a conversation like this deserves. Below: the consolidation he was asked about and what the deals were actually worth, the stack of tools he says every buyer ends up with, the honeypot company that became a security data platform when its founders squinted at their own pipeline, why a man who scaled Cloudflare’s event pipeline from 1.5 million to 10 million events a second chose not to build a database, what RunReveal shipped in the two years after this tape, and how the whole category got bought by the data layer. There are four things to try along the way: a quiz on the episode, a scorecard for your own logs, a calculator for what your alerts cost, and a timeline you can filter.

The month the SIEM market ate itself

We recorded a few weeks after May 15, 2024, which was the strangest day the security information and event management market had seen in a decade. In the morning Palo Alto Networks said it would buy IBM’s QRadar software-as-a-service business, and that afternoon Exabeam and LogRhythm announced they would merge (BankInfoSecurity on QRadar, BankInfoSecurity on the merger). Two months before that, on March 18, Cisco had closed the largest acquisition in its history, Splunk, for $28 billion in cash at $157 a share (SiliconANGLE). So I asked Alan what was going on.

Listen · the consolidation question, from 18:12
About a minute: Exabeam, LogRhythm, QRadar, and the running joke about the Splunk license. The clip stops on its own. Read the full transcript.

“That’s right, yeah. Even they… the running joke is that Cisco couldn’t afford a Splunk license, so they bought Splunk outright. It was cheaper.”

Alan Braithwaite at 19:07

The joke has a serious version, and Alan gave it right afterward: Splunk is hard to disrupt because there is a massive deployment of it in the world and a generation of analysts trained on its query language, “and that’s not to be ignored, I think.” Two years later Futuriom’s Scott Raynovich put a number on the installed base in Forbes: Splunk contributes about $4 billion a year in revenue to Cisco, its growth has slowed, and customers describe volume-based licensing as “unpalatable for high-volume applications” (Forbes). That is the whole SIEM story in one sentence: the product is sticky, the bill scales with the data, and the data only goes up.

A timeline of nine entries. September 21, 2023: Cisco agrees to buy Splunk for $28 billion. March 18, 2024: the deal closes. May 1, 2024: RunReveal raises $2.5 million. May 15, 2024: Palo Alto Networks agrees to buy IBM's QRadar SaaS business and Exabeam and LogRhythm agree to merge. July 17, 2024: Exabeam and LogRhythm close. July 19, 2024: episode 50. September 4, 2024: Palo Alto closes QRadar for about $500 million. June 16, 2026: Databricks agrees to buy Panther. September 1, 2026: ClickHouse buys RunReveal.
The deal board. Everything above the episode line happened before we recorded, and the two deals below it are the subject of the second half of this page.

The other two deals closed around the episode. Exabeam and LogRhythm completed their merger on July 17, 2024, two days before this episode went out, keeping the Exabeam name and putting Christopher O’Malley in charge (Exabeam). Palo Alto closed the QRadar purchase in September for about $500 million, and the plan was never to run QRadar: IBM promised its SaaS customers a “seamless and cost-free migration” to Palo Alto’s Cortex XSIAM, which is to say the acquirer paid half a billion dollars for a customer list (The Register). Frank Wang, then a security investor and now a RunReveal customer, wrote a post two weeks after the double announcement titled “Is this the end of SIEM?” and answered, more or less, that it had been dead for a while, because cloud software ships with its own detection and most organizations need at most one of these things (Frankly Speaking). Alan’s answer on the tape was different. It was not that the category was dying. It was that the category had been assembled from five purchases that all do the same job.

Five purchases, one goal

Here is the sequence Alan described, and I have never heard a buyer disagree with it.

“They’re all pretty much usage-based in terms of their charging. So people are like, wow, this is pretty expensive. How can we reduce the cost? So they pick up a tool like Cribl. And they realize, oh, we need user entity behavioral analytics in order to be a more effective form of detection. So they pick up something like an Exabeam, or something along those lines. So they pay another vendor for that. And now you’ve got tons of alerts coming out of your SIEMs. You pick up a product to consolidate those alerts. And now you need a product for automation on top of that. So you pick up a SOAR.”

Alan Braithwaite at 19:17

Five boxes in a row with arrows: a SIEM with usage-based pricing, then Cribl to trim the ingest bill, then UEBA for smarter alerts, then alert triage because there are too many alerts, then SOAR to automate it. An arrow leads down to a filled box reading all of them are means to the same end, detection and response, and an outlined box reading RunReveal's bet: one product, on a database it did not have to build.
The stack a buyer ends up with, in the order Alan gave it. Each purchase is a patch on the one before.

The line that follows is the one I would put on the wall of any security team’s war room: “Like, they’re all products which are means to the same end, which is effective detection and response.” The mergers, in his reading, were the vendors admitting that. Exabeam was the behavioral analytics add-on and LogRhythm was the SIEM, and the merger was the two patches becoming one patch. Palo Alto already had the automation and the response layer in Cortex, and bought QRadar’s customers to feed it. “So I think a lot of this consolidation is driven by that, where they need all of the different features from the other companies that they haven’t built.”

What makes this more than a market-structure observation is where he lands: “the product is not the data itself, but the value it provides in the form of building effective detection and response.” That one sentence explains the whole company. If the value is the detection, then the ingestion, the normalization, the connectors and the storage are costs you should drive toward zero rather than features you should charge for. And it explains the pricing instinct underneath everything RunReveal did later: “When security is seen as a cost center, like, you don’t win by charging more than companies like Splunk.”

I said on the tape that the alphabet soup of mergers sounded like a nightmare for a small, ambitious company that has to stay on top of its security posture for compliance reasons and does not have time to twiddle with a whole collection of tools. I would say it more plainly now. We had Kabir Mathur of Leen on episode 63 on how buying more security tools can make things worse, and the detection stack is the clearest case. Four of the five purchases above exist because the first one was priced by the gigabyte.

Build for everybody, including the people who build their own

I asked Alan who the competition was and expected a list of vendors. He gave me one, then dismissed it.

“And there’s lots of ways that you can, like, kind of hand-wavy do a SIEM, but it doesn’t really get you everything you need that you want out of the product. So there’s a lot of options out there. A lot of people are starting to build their own, which is what we would consider kind of our biggest competitor, really, is people without a SIEM and people building their own SIEMs.”

Alan Braithwaite at 11:46

That is a founder who has done the customer calls. The teams that build their own are not hobbyists. They are the security engineers at companies big enough to feel the ingest bill and small enough to have no budget line for a second vendor, and they go through the vendor analysis, find nothing with “the right number of features, the right features themselves,” at “a price that is digestible,” and start writing Go. Panther’s founder, Jack Naglieri, started that way too, with the StreamAlert project inside Airbnb, before it became the company Databricks bought (ICONIQ on X). RunReveal’s response was to aim the product at exactly those teams: “we want to build something that even the smallest teams without a large budget can be able to deploy.” The philosophy, he said, came from Cloudflare and Segment, both companies that sold a free tier to a developer on a Tuesday and an enterprise contract to that developer’s company two years later. In October 2024 RunReveal made the first move in that direction concrete, letting any company detect threats in its Okta logs for free (RunReveal), which is a direct answer to the “people without a SIEM” half of the competition.

The second half, the people with no SIEM at all, is most of the founders reading this. My honest view, as someone whose company sits inside startups as their security team, is that the first useful detection program has nothing to do with a product. It is a decision about which three log sources you will keep and who gets paged when one of them says something strange. Alan’s own day-one answer, in a talk a year after this episode, was identity and authentication events first: the logins, the token creations, the admin changes (WorkOS, Enterprise Ready Conference 2025). That is the same list he gave me on the tape when he described what the product pulls out of the stream, “things like logins and API token creation.” If you only centralize one thing this quarter, centralize that. The scorecard further down starts there.

If you squint, a honeypot pipeline is a security log pipeline

RunReveal did not start as a SIEM. It started as a canary company.

“We started by building honeypots and canaries, similar to Thinkst Canaries. Maybe some of your listeners might be familiar with them. Famously bootstrapped, didn’t take on any VC money. Great product by founder Haroon Meer. And after some time, after some time building, we realized that a lot of folks in the industry don’t really know how to fit it into their budget.”

Alan Braithwaite at 12:51

Listen · the pivot, from 13:54
One minute: the pipeline they built for honeypot events, the squint, and the numbers that turned into a company. The clip stops on its own. Read the full transcript.

The budget problem with canaries is real and it is worth understanding, because it is the same problem every security founder hits. A canary is a fake server or a fake document that nobody legitimate should ever touch, so a touch is a near-certain alarm. It is one of the highest-signal controls that exists. It also does not map to a line item. There is no compliance framework that says “deploy honeypots,” no questionnaire row for it, and a buyer with an established, bootstrapped incumbent to compare you to has no reason to take a chance on a new one. “We still believe that canaries and honeypots are a great and underutilized tool,” Alan said, and then the pivot:

“And so it was about that time we had started to build a data pipeline for collecting the events from those honeypots. And as we were building it, we started to realize: if you squint, this kind of looks like a security log pipeline. And we started to run some numbers and realized, hey, we can actually build a better SIEM.”

Alan Braithwaite at 13:54

Two rows of boxes. The first, mostly dashed, is the honeypot product: honeypots, collect, pipeline, alert. A line between the rows quotes Alan: if you squint, this kind of looks like a security log pipeline. The second row, outlined with a filled final box, is the security data platform: sources such as Okta and CloudTrail, normalize, signals such as logins and token creation, detections.
The pivot. The pipeline in the middle of the first row is the only part that survived, and it became the whole company.

The thing I love about this story is that the pivot was not a change of mission. The mission, in Alan’s words, was “kind of the singular goal, of helping people detect breaches more easily,” and the canary was one instrument for it. What changed was the instrument, once they noticed that the unglamorous plumbing underneath it was the part the market could not buy anywhere at a sane price. The public record lines up with the tape. The company introduced itself on April 10, 2023 as “the simple security data platform,” with a cheetah mascot named SeeSee and a plan to replace the SIEM for a small group of customers by the third quarter (RunReveal). Open beta came on July 11 (RunReveal). Then, on August 3, Alan published the pipeline itself as open source: Kawa, “an event processor so simple and easy to use that even grug brained developers like us can grok it,” written in Go, built around sources, destinations and handlers, with a stated target of thousands of events per second per core and at-least-once delivery (RunReveal, GitHub). That is the honeypot pipeline, squinted at, and given away.

Hacker News, as is its way, spent most of the Kawa thread on the name.

"Kawa is the name of a well-regarded scheme implementation in Java."

SeanLuke, on Hacker News, August 5, 2023

"The configuration examples are not valid JSON, due to trailing commas."

fl0ki, on Hacker News, August 5, 2023

Evan Johnson, Alan’s co-founder, replied to the second one that the config loader accepts both on purpose, because Go developers end lines with commas (Hacker News). Two months later the company announced impossible-travel detection for every customer, and that thread was a better preview of the product’s real problem: half the commenters were people whose laptop is on a corporate VPN while their phone is on home Wi-Fi, “flitting” across the country in the access logs, asking how any detection avoids the false positive (Hacker News). The answer RunReveal gave in its May 2024 fundraise post was correlated alerting: an unusual-hour login only fires if it also comes from an unknown device, and minor deviations roll into a daily summary (SiliconANGLE). That is the “pulling out those important signals” sentence from the tape, turned into a feature that a two-person security team can live with.

The database he did not have to build

Alan is, by his own description, a software engineer who spent a career thinking “about how to do log processing and scalable event processing.” His LinkedIn puts numbers on it: at Cloudflare from 2014 to 2017 he built and operated the event processing and analytics pipeline in Go, Kafka and Mesos and scaled it from 1.5 million events a second to more than 10 million, and at Segment from 2017 to 2022 he built the core pipeline and a product analytics platform on ClickHouse that ingested millions of events a second at peak and ended up in use across Twilio (LinkedIn). So when he says “scale is one problem we won’t have here at RunReveal, which is something I can say very confidently,” it is not bravado. It is a resume.

Which makes the decision not to build the database more interesting, not less. I asked him why ClickHouse.

“ClickHouse has been a great partner for us so far. We have a lot of experience with it from Cloudflare and Segment. Cloudflare was a very early adopter of it, pretty much as soon as it got open-sourced back in 2016. And I was honestly initially a skeptic. I was a bit dogmatic about how I viewed databases and what was necessary, and the fact that it didn’t have transactions out of the box made me very skeptical that it could actually provide value, so to speak. And I was very quickly proven wrong.”

Alan Braithwaite at 30:22

Eight months before this episode: Alan at the ClickHouse community meetup in San Francisco, November 2023, on the pipeline. Seventeen minutes. Watch on YouTube.

The Cloudflare story checks out in the company’s own engineering blog. In March 2018 Cloudflare described replacing a Postgres and Citus analytics stack with 36 ClickHouse nodes handling an average of 6 million HTTP requests a second, with peaks of 8 million, about 11 million rows a second inserted across all pipelines, and the old database retired as a single point of failure (Cloudflare). Alan says he was “a fly on the wall” on that project. At Segment he was the one pushing: a Hack Week project to show customers how their data flowed through the product, including how many properties were being dropped from events for privacy reasons, became a full product because “there was no database out there that could handle the high-cardinality data sets that ClickHouse can handle.” He wrote up the full case in November 2023, a post that opens with reading about ClickHouse in 2016, credits the 1991 log-structured merge tree for the speed, and admits to a few accidental Athena queries that cost thousands of dollars each (RunReveal). ClickHouse noticed. That month its own blog quoted him saying he had become convinced it would be “the de-facto standard database for OLAP applications” (ClickHouse on X).

The database company quoting the customer, three years before it bought him. View on X.

Not building the database also meant living inside somebody else’s bugs, and RunReveal handled that the way a product security team would. In December 2023 the company reported a role-based access control bypass in ClickHouse’s query cache: results were cached by username rather than by role, so a user switching roles could read what another role’s row policy should have hidden. It became CVE-2024-22412, disclosed on March 18, 2024, and Evan’s write-up is a small classic of the genre: “All the code was working properly but two features, when used together, had unintended security-compromising consequences” (RunReveal).

Evan Johnson, RunReveal's co-founder and chief executive, on the bug they found in the database they chose. View on X.

There is a second thing the ClickHouse decision bought, and Alan named it on the tape: breathing room to build the parts that are actually about security. The clearest example is the query language. Security analysts, he said, “don’t often love using SQL to do their investigations and write their detections,” and every incumbent had answered that with a proprietary language, Splunk’s SPL, Sumo’s, Microsoft’s Kusto, each of which is also a lock-in. So in February 2024 RunReveal released pql, an open source pipelined query language that compiles to SQL on any backend, under the Apache 2.0 license, with the explicit argument that “the major security vendors use proprietary languages as a source of vendor lock-in” and that there were no open source alternatives (RunReveal, GitHub). A team that leaves RunReveal takes its queries with it. That is a feature you can only afford to build when you are not also building the storage engine.

Three horizontal bars: $2 billion in October 2021, $6.35 billion in May 2025, $15 billion in January 2026. Below, four dated notes. June 2016: Yandex open-sources ClickHouse. March 2018: Cloudflare's analytics pipeline handles 6 million requests a second on it. March 2024: RunReveal reports CVE-2024-22412. September 1, 2026: ClickHouse buys RunReveal, and on October 30, 2026 ClickHouse patches an unauthenticated remote code execution bug rated 9.5.
The bet behind the bet. ClickHouse's valuation went from $2 billion to $15 billion between the Series B and the round announced in January 2026.

The bet behind the bet paid off too. ClickHouse the company spun out of Yandex in 2021 and raised a Series B at a $2 billion valuation that October. In May 2025, ten months after this episode, Khosla Ventures led a $350 million Series C at $6.35 billion (Bloomberg). In January 2026 Dragoneer led $400 million at $15 billion (Bloomberg). By then Alan was a fixture at its events: in May 2026 RunReveal announced he would speak at ClickHouse’s Open House conference on “a decade of real schema decisions” from operating the database across Cloudflare, Segment and a security platform handling petabyte-scale logs (RunReveal on X), and the talk is on YouTube.

Two years after this episode and three months before the acquisition: "10 years using ClickHouse taught us why it's perfect for AI," Alan's Open House 2026 session, published June 16, 2026. Forty-one minutes. Watch on YouTube.

One caveat that matters if you take Alan’s advice and run ClickHouse yourself. On October 30, 2026, the day before this page was written, ClickHouse published CVE-2026-116366, an integer overflow in ClickHouse Server that “under certain conditions, could allow an unauthenticated user with network access to execute arbitrary code,” scored 9.5 under CVSS 4.0, with fixes in 26.10.3.7, 26.9.27.3, 26.8.36.3 and 26.3.62.3 and no workaround other than upgrading and restricting access to ports 8123 and 9000 (ClickHouse security changelog, Brandefense). ClickHouse Cloud and its bring-your-own-cloud deployments were patched before disclosure. A cluster you run in your own VPC is yours to patch, which is the trade you make when you own the data layer, and the next section is about why so many security teams make it anyway.

Bring your own database

When I asked Alan about his hardest day, he gave me the most useful answer a founder can give, which is a pattern rather than a story.

“There is a big learning that we’ve had on this journey, is that there’s no two security organizations that look alike. It is incredible the amount of diversity that organizations have in how they build and operate their security team and their security motion. And it’s, I guess, not that surprising when you consider that security is seen as mostly a cost center and not a value add to the business.”

Alan Braithwaite at 26:58

Every lost proof of concept “stings a little,” he said, and the reason it stings is that security buyers are “really critical buyers,” rightly, and the missing feature is different every time. The one feature that kept deals alive, in his telling, was the one most cloud SIEMs could not offer: “I think the fact that we’re not a cloud-only SIEM, we allow customers to bring their own database. Data residency is a big front-of-mind problem for us, especially in the security space.” RunReveal had shipped that in September 2023, as bring-your-own-database: your security data lives in a ClickHouse cluster you control, in your data center or your cloud account, and RunReveal runs the product on top (RunReveal). The alternative, he pointed out, was that companies look at cloud-only SIEMs, find them impossible to justify, “and build their own SIEMs, because the other on-prem options just cost way too much.”

Three years of product releases since say the market agreed. In March 2024 came Destinations, which streams your normalized data to wherever else you want it (RunReveal). In April 2026 RunReveal shipped a Kubernetes deployment for in-VPC and on-premise installs (RunReveal), in May it added search across raw logs sitting in S3-compatible object storage without ingesting them (RunReveal), and in August it added pipelines that mask card numbers and personal details before a log is ever stored (RunReveal). Every one of those is the same idea Alan described on the tape: the customer owns the data, the vendor owns the detections.

Four statistics: 8 terabytes of Azure network flow logs a day, 350 gigabytes a day once stored, roughly 23 to 1, 3 to 5 billion rows in play at the high end, and 100,000 to 210,000 unique IP addresses. Below, a before list (network logs used after the fact, aggregate statistics nearly impossible, queries timing out) and an after list (spikes and new destinations flagged as they happen, queries back in seconds, IPs enriched with labels).
What "scale is one problem we won't have" looks like at a customer. Harvey's network flow logs, from RunReveal's April 2026 case study.

The best public picture of what that looks like in production is RunReveal’s case study with Harvey, the legal AI company, published in April 2026. Harvey’s detection and response team, which started with a single hire in April 2024, had about 8 terabytes a day of Azure network flow logs, between 100,000 and 210,000 unique IP addresses, and up to 3 to 5 billion rows in play. Before, the logs were something you went back to after an incident, and complex queries timed out or ran out of memory. “At this volume, doing any sort of aggregate statistics and proactive detection becomes nearly impossible,” Mike Parowski of Harvey said. After, with primary indexes on source, destination and port and materialized views for the aggregations, the 8 terabytes compressed to about 350 gigabytes a day, queries came back in seconds, and detection logic for traffic spikes, unusual ports and new external destinations ran continuously (RunReveal). The compression ratio is the quiet hero of that story. Columnar storage is why a terabyte of logs is not a terabyte of bill.

What RunReveal shipped after the tape stopped

Alan’s answer to what success looks like was two-layered. Short term, detect suspicious activity faster. Long term:

“There’s just so many security tools out there that are doing so many things, but they all have one commonality: they all depend on good data. So long term, we want to build security tools that require those data-intensive applications and could benefit from an open and extensible data platform. We learned very early on that selling to overworked security teams, just having the platform is not sufficient.”

Alan Braithwaite at 33:34

The release notes for the next two years read like a checklist against that paragraph. Detection as code arrived a month before the episode (RunReveal). Enrichments, which add context to every log, came in August 2024, and Sigmalite, an open source evaluator for the Sigma detection rule format, in September (RunReveal on enrichments, RunReveal on Sigmalite). Then the AI layer: a Model Context Protocol server in March 2025, so an assistant could query your security logs directly (RunReveal), an AI chat for investigations across terabytes of logs in June (RunReveal), and on July 29, 2025 a $7 million seed led again by Costanoa with Runtime Ventures, Modern Technical Fund and Okta Ventures, naming Cloudflare, Harvey, ClickHouse and Flexport as customers and claiming more than 40 integrations (RunReveal). The company that told me in 2024 it was raising “just enough runway to get us off the ground” raised its second round at nearly three times the first.

Alan at WorkOS's Enterprise Ready Conference, published November 3, 2025: identity-first logging, the reality of the OCSF schema, columnar compression, and keeping detections deterministic while agents explore. Thirteen minutes. Watch on YouTube.

In February 2026 the AI layer became an agent. Turn on auto-triage in a detection rule and, when the alert fires, an agent opens a case, investigates, and attaches its queries, tool calls and reasoning to the case for a human to read and continue (RunReveal). Tier 1 detections, managed out of the box and fed straight to the agent, followed in May (RunReveal). And then Evan did something I wish every vendor selling an “AI SOC” would do: he published what it costs.

Five statistics: about $2 per alert for an agent to investigate it with a Sonnet-class model, $1 to $3 per investigation, 90 seconds for one GuardDuty Kubernetes alert end to end, 100 alerts at about $200 and about an hour against days of human work, and a quote from Max Baumgarten of Flexport at RUNWAY: your alerts cost money now.
The alert tax, by RunReveal's own May 2026 numbers. Non-scientific, by the author's own description, and more than most vendors publish.

Across more than 50,000 agent investigations, the figure was about $2 per alert with a Sonnet-class model, a range of $1 to $3 per investigation, larger models costing more and not obviously investigating better, 100 complex alerts for roughly $200 and an hour of wall-clock time against days of human work, and one GuardDuty Kubernetes alert investigated end to end in about 90 seconds (RunReveal). The number that stuck with me came from RunReveal’s first user conference, RUNWAY, in San Francisco on September 29, 2026, where Max Baumgarten of Flexport told the room: “Tune your alerts. Your alerts cost money now.” (RunReveal). That is a genuinely new constraint. For twenty years a noisy detection cost you an analyst’s attention, which is expensive but invisible. Now it costs two dollars every time it fires, on an invoice. I wrote about the other side of that bill, an agent that cost $50,000 an hour to operate, and the calculator further down lets you run both numbers for your own alert volume.

One of Harvey's sign-in rules collected so many exceptions that it turned into a travel diary for their team.

At RUNWAY, Mike Parowski (Security Engineer, Detection & Response at Harvey) used it as an example of how his team rebuilt detections with agents.

In January, they had 75 rules and about 70,000 alerts a week. Today they run around 1,300 detections with roughly 100x fewer alerts.

His point was that none of this is new. It's the detection engineering we've always done, just written in English.

RunReveal · Company post · October 2026
Seventy-five rules and 70,000 alerts a week in January, about 1,300 detections and a hundredth of the alerts by October. The same Harvey team as the case study above, after the agents. View on LinkedIn.

Then the databases bought the SIEMs

Here is the paragraph I did not expect to write when I started this page. On June 16, 2026, Databricks agreed to buy Panther, the detection-as-code platform last valued at $1.4 billion, with chief executive Ali Ghodsi explaining that attackers now use agents and “You have to fight fire with fire.” Older alert management, he said, was “dead” (Reuters, via Yahoo Finance). Omdia’s note on the deal opened with the sentence that Alan had been saying on podcasts for three years: “Security is a data management problem” (Omdia).

Panther's investor on the day of the deal. "Building internal tooling to solve what legacy SIEM products could not" is Alan's "people building their own SIEMs," eight years earlier. View on X.

Then, on September 1, Alan and Evan published a one-minute post titled “RunReveal is joining ClickHouse.” Their argument was the one from the tape, compressed: security is a data problem, the SIEM industry spent twenty years selling add-ons for its top risks, and fixing it has to start at the data layer. For customers, “an acceleration, not a disruption,” with contracts unchanged, and for security teams evaluating ClickHouse, RunReveal stays available through the bring-your-own-database model, with the data in a cluster the customer controls (RunReveal). ClickHouse’s side of the announcement called security data “the largest and fastest growing data workload in the enterprise,” promised to stay “a neutral foundation” for the other security companies that build on it, and said the thing it wanted most was RunReveal’s work on agentic investigation, where investigations that took analysts hours should take seconds (ClickHouse). Terms were not disclosed (Dealroom).

Three stacks of three boxes. Splunk under Cisco: an AI assistant added on top, Splunk for search and detections, and Splunk's own store with storage and compute coupled. ClickHouse plus RunReveal, September 1, 2026: agents on top, RunReveal for detections, pql and pipelines, and ClickHouse as the database since day one. Databricks plus Panther, agreed June 16, 2026: agents, Panther for detections as code, and Lakewatch, the security lakehouse.
Who owns which layer now. In 2024 the detection products and the databases were separate companies. In 2026 the databases own the detection products, and the legacy SIEM still owns its own storage.
Frank Wang, the author of "Is this the end of SIEM?" in May 2024, two days after the deal. He discloses that he is a RunReveal customer. View on X.

Frank’s longer post calls it “a textbook example of a 1 + 1 = 3 acquisition” and makes the point that Alan’s structure forced: a modern SIEM startup that wanted to scale on its own would have had to spend millions building the analytical database, so the one that never tried was the one worth buying (Frankly Speaking). Casey Ellis, the founder of Bugcrowd, which is the platform RunReveal used to report the ClickHouse bug two years earlier, sent his congratulations (Casey Ellis on X). And the valuation math that drove all of it is public. Windsor Drake’s first-quarter 2026 report puts AI-native security platforms at 12 to 20 times revenue or more and legacy SIEM vendors in transition at 1.7 to 5 times, with Rapid7 at 1.7 times on about one percent growth, and reads Palo Alto’s $500 million for QRadar as “signaling the sunset of legacy SIEM” (Windsor Drake). The two 2026 deals are the data companies buying their way into the high-multiple column.

So was Alan right? On the thesis, completely: the product was the detection, the data layer was a commodity he should rent, and the people who rented it best got acquired by their landlord at a premium. On the prediction, partly. He expected consolidation to produce “kind of this unified product experience” from the incumbents, and instead the unification came from below, from the databases. The thing I would add, having watched our own clients go through this, is that the acquisition changes nothing about what a founder should do. You still need the three log sources, the one owner, and a bill that does not scale with your success. Which brings us to the tools.

The founder notes

Everything above is the business. The rest of the tape is the person, and it is worth the time.

He got into Cloudflare by being persistent. Alan applied through Y Combinator’s Who’s Hiring thread, heard nothing for two months while Cloudflare kept posting, and kept emailing until “they’re like, who’s this guy who keeps sending us emails?” The interview panel included Nick Sullivan, who had just built Universal SSL, which Cloudflare launched for free on September 29, 2014 (Cloudflare). The interview question was how to authenticate an API request over plain HTTP, which forces you into sorting query parameters and hashing them, “but it’s all predicated on the fact that TLS or SSL is not present.” A decade later that problem has mostly dissolved, which Alan hesitated to say out loud and then said anyway. Nick was on this show too, on episode 38, and I worked with him on Apple’s DRM team before either of us knew Alan.

He does not call himself a security person, and then does. “I’ve always been a software engineer, which is why I haven’t really considered myself a security person, per se.” The counterevidence he offered: proxies to play RuneScape on library computers, domain admin in high school so he could put Quake III Arena on a network share, unencrypted campus Wi-Fi in college that made it “trivial to do very nefarious things on public networks” and drove his interest in cryptography. The honest answer to “do you think of yourself as a security guy” for most engineers is Alan’s: you were, you just had not accepted it. He has told the longer version of that story on Hackers to Founders (Transistor).

The first raise was sized on purpose. “We just announced our first raise, right before BSides and RSA,” he said, meaning the $2.5 million from Costanoa on May 1, 2024, whose partner John Cowgill said existing SIEMs were “too expensive, too difficult to implement and too hard to use” (SiliconANGLE). Alan’s framing: “Just enough runway to get us off the ground, and trying to avoid some of the challenges of raising too much.” I have written about staffing security with that same discipline, and I would add that a founder who can say “we’re just being very intentional about fundraising” on a podcast, with the investor listening, usually means it.

The best day is tomorrow, and also the onboarding call. “I think tomorrow is always the best day,” and then the real answer: getting on a call with a new customer, starting the onboarding on the call, and finishing it on the call, “seeing people’s faces when they realize it was that simple to connect something else.” Somewhere in there I looked at the RunReveal trust center, found SOC 2 Type 2 and hearts, and gave him a high five on tape. “We think security should be fun, too.” If your trust center does not have a SOC 2 Type 2 yet, this is the difference between Type 1 and Type 2, and it is work we do.

The worst day is every lost proof of concept. Not one day, a recurring sting, and his response to it was to stop being opinionated about features and let customers lead. That is a harder discipline than it sounds for a founder with a resume like his.

The book is Slaughterhouse-Five. “It’s kind of a classic anti-war novel, but it also explores themes of free will and the nature of time and space,” and, he said, almost unintentionally, Buddhist themes of being present. He is not a Buddhist. He practices mindfulness, and he thinks Western culture under-teaches “being content with what you have and not desiring too much out of the world.”

The parting words were two. I asked for final wisdom, he said I had put him on the spot, and then: “Hakuna matata, I guess.” The Lion King was his favorite children’s movie. “Yeah, you just gotta kind of roll with things and take things as they come.” Twenty-six months later he rolled with being acquired.

Did you catch it? A six-question quiz

Interactive · six questions

Did you catch it?

Six questions on what Alan actually said, with the timestamp for each answer. The answers are under each question for anyone reading without JavaScript.

  1. Who did Alan name as RunReveal's biggest competitor?

    1. Splunk
    2. People without a SIEM, and people building their own
    3. The other security data platforms

    b. "A lot of people are starting to build their own, which is what we would consider kind of our biggest competitor, really, is people without a SIEM and people building their own SIEMs." Transcript, 11:46.

  2. What did RunReveal build first, before the security data platform?

    1. A query language
    2. A vulnerability scanner
    3. Honeypots and canaries

    c. "We started by building honeypots and canaries, similar to Thinkst Canaries." The pipeline they built to collect honeypot events became the product. Transcript, 12:51.

  3. Why was Alan initially skeptical of ClickHouse?

    1. It did not have transactions out of the box
    2. It was too expensive to run
    3. It only supported a proprietary query language

    a. "The fact that it didn't have transactions out of the box made me very skeptical that it could actually provide value, so to speak. And I was very quickly proven wrong." Transcript, 30:22.

  4. In Alan's account of the buying sequence, what does a team buy right after it sees the SIEM bill?

    1. A SOAR
    2. Behavioral analytics
    3. A pipeline tool like Cribl, to cut the ingest cost

    c. "So people are like, wow, this is pretty expensive. How can we reduce the cost? So they pick up a tool like Cribl." Behavioral analytics, alert consolidation and the SOAR come after. Transcript, 19:17.

  5. Which feature did Alan say kept deals alive with buyers who worry about data residency?

    1. A free tier
    2. Bring your own database
    3. A mobile app

    b. "I think the fact that we're not a cloud-only SIEM, we allow customers to bring their own database. Data residency is a big front-of-mind problem for us, especially in the security space." Transcript, 26:58.

  6. What were Alan's final words of wisdom?

    1. "Hakuna matata, I guess."
    2. "Ship it."
    3. "Log everything."

    a. The Lion King was his favorite children's movie. "Yeah, you just gotta kind of roll with things and take things as they come." Transcript, 37:44.

Would your logs survive an incident?

Most of what RunReveal does is out of reach for a company with no security engineer this quarter. The questions underneath it are not. This scorecard asks eight of them about your own setup, each tied to a point on the tape, and tells you which gap an investigator would hit first.

Scorecard · eight questions

Would your logs survive an incident?

Answer for the company as it is, not the plan. Weighted toward the questions an incident responder asks in the first hour.

  1. Are your identity events (sign-ins, admin changes, API token creation from Okta, Google Workspace, Microsoft Entra, GitHub) collected somewhere other than the product that generated them?

    • No, they live in each product's own console
    • Some sources, not all
    • Yes, all of them, in one place we control

    Alan's day-one signals are "logins and API token creation." An attacker's first move is a login, and a product's own console usually keeps 30 to 90 days.

  2. If you had to say everything one employee's account did across your cloud and SaaS last Tuesday, how long would it take?

    • Days, with help from each vendor
    • A day, by hand
    • Under an hour, from one place

    This is the question every incident starts with. Harvey's team went from queries that timed out to answers in seconds. The tool matters less than having the data in one queryable place.

  3. How far back can you actually search your security logs?

    • Less than 30 days
    • About 90 days
    • Twelve months or more, searchable

    Evan Johnson's rule of thumb: incidents need fast search across roughly a year of data, and compliance wants it kept for a year or more. Cheap retention and fast search pull in opposite directions, which is why the architecture matters.

  4. Do you know what you pay per gigabyte ingested, and what happens to the bill when an engineer turns on a noisy new source?

    • No idea, it is one line on an invoice
    • Roughly, after the fact
    • Yes, and noisy sources are routed to cheap storage on purpose

    "They're all pretty much usage-based in terms of their charging." Every purchase in Alan's five-step stack exists because of this question. Route before you pay.

  5. Does every alert that can page a person have a named owner and a written first step?

    • No, alerts go to a channel and whoever notices
    • The important ones do
    • Every one, and unowned alerts get deleted

    "Tune your alerts. Your alerts cost money now." An unowned alert is noise with a price tag. Monitoring and response is how we staff the owner.

  6. Are your detections written down as code, versioned and reviewed, or clicked together in a console?

    • Clicked together, nobody remembers why
    • Some are in a repository
    • All of them, with tests and a reviewer

    Detection as code shipped a month before this episode. A detection you cannot diff is a detection you cannot trust after the person who wrote it leaves.

  7. Could you move your security data and your detection queries to another tool without rewriting them?

    • No, everything is in the vendor's language
    • The data, yes. The queries, no.
    • Yes, the data is in a store we own and the queries are SQL or an open language

    Alan's reason for building pql: proprietary query languages are "a source of vendor lock-in." Ask the lock-in question before you sign, not at renewal.

  8. If an AI agent investigates alerts for you, can you see every query it ran, every tool it called, and what each investigation cost?

    • We have an agent and no idea what it does
    • We can see the summary, not the steps
    • Every step and the cost, attached to the case

    RunReveal attaches the agent's query history, tool usage and reasoning to the case. The human in the loop is going away, so the audit trail has to replace it.

You would be reconstructing from memory

The first hour of an incident would be spent asking vendors for exports. Fix the top two questions first: get identity events out of their consoles and into one place you control, and make sure you can answer "what did this account do" from that place. Then give the three alerts that matter an owner.

The logs exist, the answers are slow

You have the data and you would find the answer eventually. Retention, cost and ownership are where you lose days. Decide what a year of searchable logs should cost, route the noisy sources to cheap storage, and put the detections in a repository so the next person can read them.

You would survive the incident

Centralized identity events, fast answers, a year of history, owned alerts, detections as code. What is left is the portability question and the agent audit trail, which are exactly what your enterprise buyers will ask next.

The alert tax

Alan’s five-step stack exists because detection is priced by the gigabyte. The 2026 version of the problem is that triage is priced by the alert, whether a person does it or an agent does. Put your own numbers in.

Calculator

The alert tax

Hours a year your team spends looking at alerts, what that costs, and what an agent at RunReveal's published price would cost and give back. Rough by design. Change the numbers to yours.

–hours a year on triage
–what those hours cost
–agent bill a year, every alert
–hours given back
–net saving, if any

At these numbers your team spends hours a year on alert triage. The cheaper move is still to delete the alerts nobody owns.

The $2 default is RunReveal's May 2026 estimate for a Sonnet-class model across more than 50,000 investigations, which its author calls non-scientific. Human minutes per alert and the share an agent can close are yours to set, and the net saving is floored at zero. Not counted: the alerts a person never gets to, which is usually the real cost.

Ten years on one line

Everything on this page sits on one timeline, from the open-source release of the database to the week this page was written. Filter it by thread to see how a 2016 engineering decision at Cloudflare became a 2026 acquisition.

Timeline · 2014 to 2026

Ten years on one line

Filter by thread. Dates are from the public record except where marked as Alan's own account on the tape.

  1. Universal SSL, and a persistent applicant

    Cloudflare turns on free SSL for every customer (Cloudflare). Alan joins the same year, after emailing until the recruiters asked who he was, and interviews with Nick Sullivan about authenticating APIs without TLS.

  2. ClickHouse goes open source

    Yandex releases the columnar database. Cloudflare adopts it almost immediately, and Alan, "a bit dogmatic about how I viewed databases," is quickly proven wrong.

  3. Segment, and a Hack Week project

    Alan moves to Segment, builds the core pipeline, and turns a Hack Week product-observability tool on ClickHouse into a platform later used across Twilio (LinkedIn).

  4. Six million requests a second

    Cloudflare describes its HTTP analytics pipeline on 36 ClickHouse nodes, averaging 6 million requests a second with peaks of 8 million (Cloudflare).

  5. A $2 billion database company

    ClickHouse Inc., spun out of Yandex weeks earlier, raises a Series B at a $2 billion valuation.

  6. "Introducing RunReveal"

    Evan Johnson and Alan announce "the simple security data platform," with a cheetah mascot and a plan to replace the SIEM for a small group of customers (RunReveal).

  7. Kawa

    The event processor "for the grug brained developer" is open-sourced, and Hacker News debates the name (Hacker News).

  8. Bring your own database

    Customers can keep their security data in a ClickHouse cluster they control (RunReveal).

  9. Cisco agrees to buy Splunk

    $28 billion in cash, at $157 a share (SiliconANGLE).

  10. The ClickHouse meetup talk

    Alan presents the "ridiculously fast threat detection pipeline" at the ClickHouse meetup in San Francisco (YouTube).

  11. pql

    An open source pipelined query language that compiles to SQL, built as an answer to proprietary query languages (RunReveal).

  12. The Splunk deal closes

    The largest acquisition in Cisco's history completes (SiliconANGLE).

  13. CVE-2024-22412

    RunReveal's write-up of the ClickHouse query-cache bug it reported in December (RunReveal).

  14. $2.5 million

    A seed round led by Costanoa Ventures, "just enough runway to get us off the ground" (RunReveal).

  15. Two deals in one day

    Palo Alto Networks agrees to buy IBM's QRadar SaaS business, and Exabeam and LogRhythm agree to merge (BankInfoSecurity).

  16. "Is this the end of SIEM?"

    Frank Wang's post on the consolidation: most organizations need at most one SIEM, and the category has been dead for a while (Frankly Speaking).

  17. Exabeam and LogRhythm close

    The combined company keeps the Exabeam name (Exabeam).

  18. Episode 50

    This conversation. "The product is not the data itself, but the value it provides in the form of building effective detection and response."

  19. QRadar SaaS closes

    About $500 million, with customers promised a free migration to Cortex XSIAM (The Register).

  20. Okta logs, free

    RunReveal lets any company detect threats in its Okta logs at no cost (RunReveal).

  21. An MCP server for your logs

    Assistants can query security data directly (RunReveal).

  22. $6.35 billion

    Khosla Ventures leads a $350 million Series C in ClickHouse (Bloomberg).

  23. $7 million

    A second seed led by Costanoa, with Cloudflare, Harvey, ClickHouse and Flexport named as customers (RunReveal).

  24. Enterprise Ready Conference

    Alan on identity-first logging and where agents help investigations (YouTube).

  25. $15 billion

    Dragoneer leads $400 million in ClickHouse, more than doubling the valuation in under a year (Bloomberg).

  26. The autonomous agent

    Alerts open a case and an agent investigates, with its queries and reasoning attached (RunReveal).

  27. Harvey, 8 terabytes a day

    The case study behind the scale figures on this page (RunReveal).

  28. "About $2 per alert"

    Evan publishes what agent investigations cost across more than 50,000 of them (RunReveal).

  29. Open House

    Alan's session on ten years of ClickHouse schema decisions at the database company's conference (YouTube).

  30. Databricks agrees to buy Panther

    "You have to fight fire with fire." Terms undisclosed, Panther last valued at $1.4 billion (Reuters).

  31. ClickHouse buys RunReveal

    "An acceleration, not a disruption." Contracts unchanged, bring-your-own-database stays (RunReveal).

  32. RUNWAY

    RunReveal's first user conference, in San Francisco. "Tune your alerts. Your alerts cost money now." (RunReveal).

  33. CVE-2026-116366

    ClickHouse patches an unauthenticated remote code execution bug in ClickHouse Server, CVSS 9.5 (ClickHouse).

What to do this week

Four things, in the order an incident responder would need them.

  1. Centralize identity first. Get sign-ins, admin changes and token creation from your identity provider, your cloud and your source control into one place you control, with twelve months of retention. Alan’s day-one list is “logins and API token creation,” and RunReveal’s Okta tier is free if you want to see what a detection on those events looks like before you buy anything.
  2. Write the first three detections as code. New admin, new API token from a new location, a login from a country you have no employees in. Put them in a repository with a reviewer. If you cannot diff a detection, you cannot trust it after the author leaves.
  3. Give every alert an owner or delete it. “Tune your alerts. Your alerts cost money now.” That was true before agents and it is on the invoice now. The calculator above will tell you what the unowned ones cost.
  4. Ask the two exit questions before you sign. Where does the data live, and can I take my queries with me? Bring-your-own-database and an open query language were Alan’s answers in 2024. Any vendor you talk to in 2026 should have one. Once they’re in covers what the logs are for after the answer is yes.

Key takeaways

  1. Five purchases, one goal

    Alan's account of what happens after a team buys a SIEM: usage-based pricing makes the bill hurt, so they add a pipeline tool like Cribl, then behavioral analytics for better detections, then something to consolidate the alerts, then a SOAR to automate the response. "They're all products which are means to the same end, which is effective detection and response." He reads the 2024 mergers as vendors admitting it.

  2. The product is not the data

    The sentence that explains RunReveal: "the product is not the data itself, but the value it provides in the form of building effective detection and response." If the value is the detection, then ingestion, normalization, connectors and storage are costs to drive toward zero, and "you don't win by charging more than companies like Splunk."

  3. Not building the database was the advantage

    RunReveal runs on ClickHouse, the columnar database Alan first met at Cloudflare in 2016 as a skeptic ("it didn't have transactions out of the box") and then brought to Segment. Renting the data layer bought the room to build the parts that are about security, including pql, an open source query language that compiles to SQL so customers are not locked in. In September 2026 ClickHouse bought the company.

  4. If you squint, a honeypot pipeline is a security log pipeline

    RunReveal started as a honeypot and canary company, found that buyers had no budget line for canaries against an established, bootstrapped Thinkst, and noticed that the pipeline it had built to collect honeypot events was most of a SIEM. "We started to run some numbers and realized, hey, we can actually build a better SIEM." The pipeline was later open-sourced as Kawa.

  5. No two security organizations look alike, so let the customer own the data

    Every lost proof of concept "stings a little," and the missing feature is different every time. The feature that kept deals alive was bring-your-own-database: the security data stays in a ClickHouse cluster the customer controls, which answers the data residency question that cloud-only SIEMs cannot. "We see a lot of companies deciding to do the crazy thing and build their own SIEMs, because the other on-prem options just cost way too much."

  6. A first raise sized on purpose

    RunReveal announced a $2.5 million seed led by Costanoa Ventures days before BSides and RSA 2024: "Just enough runway to get us off the ground, and trying to avoid some of the challenges of raising too much." The best day is tomorrow, and also every onboarding call finished on the call. The book is Slaughterhouse-Five. The parting words were "Hakuna matata, I guess."

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“And we're not building the database, which gives us a huge advantage.”

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“And as we were building it, we started to realize: if you squint, this kind of looks like a security log pipeline.”

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“So scale is one problem we won't have here at RunReveal, which is something I can say very confidently.”

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“The running joke is that Cisco couldn't afford a Splunk license, so they bought Splunk outright. It was cheaper.”

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“Like, they're all products which are means to the same end, which is effective detection and response.”

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“The product is not the data itself, but the value it provides in the form of building effective detection and response.”

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“There is a big learning that we've had on this journey, is that there's no two security organizations that look alike.”

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About the guest

Alan Braithwaite, Co-founder and Chief Technology Officer, RunReveal

Alan Braithwaite is the co-founder and chief technology officer of RunReveal, the security data platform he started with Evan Johnson in 2023 and which ClickHouse acquired on September 1, 2026. He was a systems engineer at Cloudflare from 2014 to 2017, where he built and operated the event processing and analytics pipeline in Go, Kafka and Mesos and scaled it from 1.5 million to more than 10 million events a second, and a staff software engineer at Segment from 2017 to 2022, where he built the core pipeline and a product analytics platform on ClickHouse later used across Twilio. He is the author of Kawa, RunReveal's open source event processor, has spoken at GopherCon UK and GopherCon Europe, the ClickHouse community meetups and Open House, and WorkOS's Enterprise Ready Conference, and studied computer engineering at California State University, Chico.

About the host

Jon McLachlan is co-founder of YSecurity, the on-demand cybersecurity team for startups, and of Cyberbase.ai. The Security Podcast of Silicon Valley is hosted by Jon McLachlan and Sasha Sinkevich. Jon McLachlan on LinkedIn ↗

Context and sources

  • SiliconANGLE, March 18, 2024: Cisco completes its $28 billion all-cash acquisition of Splunk at $157 a share, the largest in its history. Source ↗
  • BankInfoSecurity, May 15, 2024: Palo Alto Networks to acquire IBM's QRadar SaaS business, and the same day LogRhythm and Exabeam announce their merger. Source ↗
  • Exabeam, July 17, 2024: Exabeam and LogRhythm complete their merger, keeping the Exabeam name, with Christopher O'Malley as chief executive. Source ↗
  • The Register, September 4, 2024: Palo Alto Networks completes the roughly $500 million purchase of IBM's QRadar SaaS offering, with customers to migrate to Cortex XSIAM. Source ↗
  • SiliconANGLE, May 1, 2024: RunReveal raises a $2.5 million seed led by Costanoa Ventures, whose partner John Cowgill calls existing SIEMs too expensive, too difficult to implement and too hard to use. Source ↗
  • RunReveal, August 3, 2023: Kawa, the open source event processor written in Go, with a target of thousands of events per second per core and at-least-once delivery. Source ↗
  • RunReveal, September 19, 2023: bring your own database, with security data kept in a ClickHouse cluster the customer controls. Source ↗
  • RunReveal, February 27, 2024: pql, an open source pipelined query language that compiles to SQL, Apache 2.0, built as an alternative to proprietary query languages. Source ↗
  • RunReveal, March 26, 2024: CVE-2024-22412, a role-based access control bypass in ClickHouse's query cache reported by RunReveal in December 2023 and disclosed March 18, 2024. Source ↗
  • RunReveal, November 9, 2023: Alan Braithwaite on why the company picked ClickHouse as its primary data platform. Source ↗
  • Cloudflare, March 6, 2018: HTTP analytics for 6 million requests a second on 36 ClickHouse nodes, with peaks of 8 million and about 11 million rows a second inserted. Source ↗
  • Alan Braithwaite's LinkedIn profile: Cloudflare 2014 to 2017, Segment 2017 to 2022, RunReveal from 2023, California State University, Chico. Source ↗
  • Bloomberg, May 29, 2025: a Khosla Ventures-led round values ClickHouse at $6.35 billion, and on January 16, 2026 ClickHouse raises $400 million at a $15 billion valuation led by Dragoneer. Source ↗
  • RunReveal, July 29, 2025: a $7 million seed led by Costanoa Ventures with Runtime Ventures, Modern Technical Fund and Okta Ventures, naming Cloudflare, Harvey, ClickHouse and Flexport as customers. Source ↗
  • RunReveal, April 13, 2026: Harvey's network threat detection on about 8 terabytes of flow logs a day, compressed to about 350 gigabytes, with 100,000 to 210,000 unique IP addresses. Source ↗
  • RunReveal, May 28, 2026: about $2 per alert and $1 to $3 per investigation for agent investigations with a Sonnet-class model, across more than 50,000 investigations. Source ↗
  • Reuters via Yahoo Finance, June 16, 2026: Databricks agrees to buy Panther, last valued at $1.4 billion. Ali Ghodsi: "You have to fight fire with fire." Source ↗
  • RunReveal, September 1, 2026: RunReveal is joining ClickHouse, "an acceleration, not a disruption," with contracts unchanged and bring-your-own-database still available. Source ↗
  • ClickHouse, September 1, 2026: ClickHouse welcomes RunReveal, calling security data the largest and fastest growing data workload in the enterprise. Source ↗
  • RunReveal on LinkedIn, October 2026: Harvey went from 75 rules and about 70,000 alerts a week in January to around 1,300 detections with roughly 100 times fewer alerts. Source ↗
  • RunReveal, October 6, 2026: what the company learned at RUNWAY, its first user conference, including Max Baumgarten of Flexport: "Tune your alerts. Your alerts cost money now." Source ↗
  • Forbes, September 3, 2026 (Futuriom): Splunk contributes about $4 billion a year to Cisco, growth has slowed, and volume-based licensing is unpalatable for high-volume applications. Source ↗
  • Windsor Drake, first quarter 2026: AI-native security platforms at 12 to 20 times revenue or more, legacy SIEM transitioners at 1.7 to 5 times, Rapid7 at 1.7 times. Source ↗
  • ClickHouse security changelog, October 30, 2026: CVE-2026-116366, an unauthenticated remote code execution vulnerability in ClickHouse Server rated 9.5, fixed in 26.10.3.7, 26.9.27.3, 26.8.36.3 and 26.3.62.3. Source ↗

Transcript

Automatic transcription; speaker labels were assigned by ear (no diarization on the tape). Names and product names were normalized where the recognizer misheard them (RunReveal, Jon McLachlan, YSecurity, ClickHouse, Segment, BSides, SIEM, pql, Kusto, Cribl, Exabeam, LogRhythm, QRadar, Thinkst, Haroon Meer, Y Combinator, Quake III Arena, Slaughterhouse-Five, Hakuna matata, The Lion King). Bracketed words are best guesses where a syllable was lost. Timestamps are the start of each turn to within a couple of seconds.

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Jon McLachlan

Hello everyone and welcome to another episode of The Security Podcast of Silicon Valley. I'm your host, Jon McLachlan, and I'm joined today by a very special guest and good friend, Alan Braithwaite.

Alan Braithwaite

That's right. Thanks very much. Hi, Jon.

Jon McLachlan

Thank you for joining me.

Alan Braithwaite

Perfect.

Jon McLachlan

Amazing. I'm so happy.

Alan Braithwaite

I'm so happy to hear that. It's great to be here.

Jon McLachlan

So, Alan, you're the co-founder and CTO of RunReveal.

Alan Braithwaite

That's right. We're a simple security data platform with the goal of helping security teams detect threats faster and easier.

Jon McLachlan

And before you started this company... you've been building this company for about a year and a half. Before that, you were at Segment for a good chunk of time, five years. And then before that, you were at Cloudflare way back in the day for, what, about three years or so?

Alan Braithwaite

Yeah, that's when we met, through our mutual friend. But also, I met Evan, my co-founder, there.

Jon McLachlan

Yup.

Alan Braithwaite

He and I worked at Cloudflare and became friends and just kind of chatted a lot about our future visions and ambitions.

Jon McLachlan

And then we... I remember, yeah, we had that coffee at that little coffee shop right outside, in the front of Cloudflare. They had the little scooters and the motors. That was so good. I'm so sad that they shut down. Such a good coffee shop.

Alan Braithwaite

Yeah. Yeah, run by [Gento]. [Gento]'s still around, thankfully, but the bigger coffee shop, not so much. I'm sure the rent was high.

Jon McLachlan

I'm sure it was. Yeah. It was just a good spot. You probably had coffee there all of the time.

Alan Braithwaite

Not quite. It opened just before I went to Segment. So I was already on my way to Segment at that time. Evan, though, he boomeranged back to Cloudflare after Joe Sullivan started working there. And so he probably had a lot more coffee there than I did.

Jon McLachlan

Well, we can be coffee jealous. Yeah. It's important to fill life with amazing things and good people and great coffee.

Alan Braithwaite

Yes, and San Francisco has the best coffee, hands down. Easily. In fact, when I travel, it's always a delight to come back and enjoy a [cup].

Jon McLachlan

Yes, very much. And you recently arrived back yourself, so you have moving boxes behind you, for those who can't see the video. Welcome back.

Alan Braithwaite

Happy to be back. I can say that the coffee here is the best, because I lived in Seattle and New York and it's just not quite the same coffee culture as we have here. I'm sure it's more just a difference in taste and preferences, but there's just something about the light roast and the single origins that are really prioritized here over other locations that I just can't get enough of.

Jon McLachlan

You're so polite. There's going to be so much hate mail that comes in from, oh, you said this about our coffee.

Alan Braithwaite

Like, oh, it's okay. We can be honest. San Francisco does have the best coffee.

Jon McLachlan

Like, can't stop. If you agree or disagree, please leave a comment. Do you think of yourself as a security guy, Alan?

Alan Braithwaite

I thought about this a lot in my career, and I wouldn't have thought of myself as [one] for a while. But looking back, in retrospect, I don't know how I can think that, because I've always been tinkering with computers, breaking things. So I'm not sure it's really appropriate to say I was not a security guy. But sure, we are building a security tool for security engineers, and really just finally accepting that part of me and leaning into it.

Jon McLachlan

And sponsoring BSides, I might add.

Alan Braithwaite

Sponsoring BSides. BSides was a big inspiration to us, honestly. Evan, my co-founder, has worked in security his whole career. I've always been a software engineer, which is why I haven't really considered myself a security person, per se. But that being said, it goes way back, when I was in grade school and high school, kind of circumventing access controls on library networks with the sole purpose of trying to play video games.

Jon McLachlan

There you go.

Alan Braithwaite

Using proxies to play RuneScape on the library computers, because RuneScape was not allowed. And from there, in high school, trying to get domain admin so I could add Quake III Arena to a network share so everybody could play on the school network. So you could say I was kind of into security from a young age, but I never really thought of it as a career option until much later on.

Jon McLachlan

Brilliant.

Alan Braithwaite

In college, when I started to seriously consider security as a career prospect, because I was studying computer engineering, learning the hardware, knowing that I wanted to be a software engineer, but being enamored with computer security, largely due to the fact that it was kind of an emerging industry. I mean, it's been around for a long time, of course, but when I was in college, the Wi-Fi was still unencrypted and SSL was not very widely deployed. So it was trivial to do very nefarious things on public networks. And that was kind of a big eye-opener for me. And that's what really drove my interest in things like cryptography and authentication protocols and things like that. So even though my first job out of college wasn't in security, per se, I was at a fiber optic networking company, just now defunct, I went to Cloudflare long after graduating college, and that was just my dream job at the time. Still an amazing company full of amazing engineers. And that was my break into security, properly.

Jon McLachlan

Yeah, there's a strong security presence there.

Alan Braithwaite

Yeah. Yeah. Even though I wasn't on the security team, I was on the data team there, you're still surrounded by all of these really brilliant engineers who are all thinking about security all the time, because that's the core product. Cloudflare is just building a more secure internet. And that was really inspiring to me at that time. Still is.

Jon McLachlan

Amazing. Did you get to work with Nick Sullivan?

Alan Braithwaite

Nick Sullivan actually interviewed me, and I remember our interview very distinctly.

Jon McLachlan

Yeah. Okay, what did he ask you?

Alan Braithwaite

Well, let me give you some background. Before I interviewed at Cloudflare, I actually applied through the Y Combinator Who's Hiring, and I didn't hear anything for a couple of months. But they were still posting to Y Combinator saying, hey, we're still hiring. So I messaged, I did follow-ups, and they eventually saw that I had applied and bumped me up again. They're like, who's this guy who keeps sending us emails?

Jon McLachlan

Absolutely. All right.

Alan Braithwaite

But between the time I applied and the time I actually got the interview, I had gone to the crypto meetup, [name unclear], which was crypto as in cryptography, not necessarily cryptocurrency.

Jon McLachlan

The real crypto.

Alan Braithwaite

The real crypto. I was learning a lot about that at the time. And so even though I wasn't on the crypto team, I think Nick may have seen that or something. In any case, he ended up being on the interview panel, and we were talking about how to authenticate API requests and why HTTP is a kind of fraught protocol for trying to verify API parameters, because you have to sort the query parameters and do some sort of hash function in order to have any kind of guarantee that it hasn't been tampered with. But it's all predicated on the fact that TLS or SSL is not present. So at that time, we didn't have Universal SSL. So that was kind of important. And we just were kind of going back and forth imagining this future, which I hesitate to say, but I think we're almost there, with nearly universal deployment of SSL. Things like the SSL tooling has just come so far in that amount of time. So fortunately, like, we don't have to rely on those kind of clunky API protocols. And that's kind of what we talked about in our interview there. And so it was fun.

Jon McLachlan

That's awesome. I worked with Nick before his time at Cloudflare, when he was on the DRM team at Apple.

Alan Braithwaite

Yeah, yup.

Jon McLachlan

He and I, we worked for a good chunk of time. So that's how we got it. Killer team, for sure. Several of them. And actually, it's really amazing, a bunch of the people from that team went off and started companies, joined other startups. A bunch of them are on the show. Nick has a show, so you're in good company. So tell us a little bit about, what is RunReveal? What do you guys do better than everyone else in the world?

Alan Braithwaite

Yeah, we're a security data platform, is what we're calling ourselves, and we make correlated detections across SaaS applications really easy by integrating directly with those applications, normalizing the events, the audit logs that are being ingested, pulling out those important signals, things like logins and API token creation, out of that normalized data stream. So you're not having, as a security engineer, to sift through the terabytes of data that you're ingesting. And you can really just focus on building detections, create useful alerts. And in order to do this, we really had to reinvent every component of a SIEM, which is kind of the space that we're playing in, from the ground up, from scratch, to make it really simple to use and easy to manage. Because none of the existing vendors or software out there that we could find really did all this very well. And so we're taking a very product-first approach to this problem. And we're not building the database, which gives us a huge advantage. We can really just focus on what security teams and detection and response engineers need in order to give them the value that they're looking for out of a tool like this. And all of the other tools, you kind of... there's just a lot of tools out there, and it's difficult to build one that removes all the cruft and only gives you the things that you need and gets out of your way and lets you do your job.

Jon McLachlan

Awesome. No, thank you for sharing. I noticed that you didn't call yourself a SIEM. Was that intentional?

Alan Braithwaite

There's a lot of intentionality. There's a lot of other players out there right now calling themselves a security data platform, who would be our competitors, of course, and they're more security ETL products. They have detections and they have all of these things as well. But they look a little bit more hands-on. So kind of choose your own adventure. So a bit more customizable, maybe more oriented towards the, like, high enterprise, whereas we're trying to build for everybody. We took this philosophy from Cloudflare and Segment, where we want to build something that enterprise can use, of course, but also we want to build something that even the smallest teams without a large budget can be able to deploy. This critical piece of security software that every company needs, whether it's for compliance or just to make sure that you actually have a good security posture and you can detect incidents, it's something that...

Jon McLachlan

We need this for compliance.

Alan Braithwaite

Yes, we do need this for compliance.

Jon McLachlan

And so all the great people in the world. Yeah, we all do. I don't know anyone that escapes that problem. I mean, unless you don't have a business, but...

Alan Braithwaite

And there's lots of ways that you can, like, kind of hand-wavy do a SIEM, but it doesn't really get you everything you need that you want out of the product. So there's a lot of options out there. A lot of people are starting to build their own, which is what we would consider kind of our biggest competitor, really, is people without a SIEM and people building their own SIEMs.

Jon McLachlan

Because they see what you have already seen, and have stepped forward and built this amazing...

Alan Braithwaite

Right. And they, well, they do all the vendor analysis as well. They go out and they try and buy it, and they just can't find anything that hits the right number of features, the right features themselves, and also comes in at a price that is digestible to companies. When security is seen as a cost center, like, you don't win by charging more than companies like Splunk.

Jon McLachlan

Well, yeah, it's hard to charge more than Splunk, right? Like, keep your tongue in cheek. So, why did you start RunReveal? You mentioned there's a lot of stuff out there, nothing really hits the spot.

Alan Braithwaite

Yeah, we started RunReveal actually with the goal, kind of the singular goal, of helping people detect breaches more easily. And we actually started by building something completely different, as you do when building startups. We started by building honeypots and canaries, similar to Thinkst Canaries. Maybe some of your listeners might be familiar with them. Famously bootstrapped, didn't take on any VC money. Great product by founder Haroon Meer. And after some time, after some time building, we realized that a lot of folks in the industry don't really know how to fit it into their budget. So that created kind of an uphill battle for us, especially with an established, great product like Thinkst out there. So we kind of had to reanalyze what we were doing. We still believe that canaries and honeypots are a great and underutilized tool.

Jon McLachlan

Mm.

Alan Braithwaite

We really needed to make a change in order to start to get traction. And so it was about that time we had started to build a data pipeline for collecting the events from those honeypots. And as we were building it, we started to realize: if you squint, this kind of looks like a security log pipeline. And we started to run some numbers and realized, hey, we can actually build a better SIEM. We can build a security data platform that's useful and scalable, and still be able to provide value and charge less than a lot of the incumbents. So that was the big light bulb moment for us, was when we realized that we could do this at a much more affordable price point and still build a better product and make it easier. You know how they say you have to be 10x better than any existing product to really make a dent? Well, that was kind of the moment where we realized that, and we just immediately took a turn and didn't look back.

Jon McLachlan

That's a classic story. I love it. It's like you are building something amazing in-house, and you're having to solve, like, even smaller, more specific problems underneath the hood, realizing that everyone actually shared that data pipeline problem. And you used your superpowers that you fine-tuned at your time at Cloudflare and then at Segment, and really just bore all of that hard-earned experience into this new product with your pivot.

Alan Braithwaite

That's exactly right. And it's kind of an ideal team for it, too. Evan, having been an operator, senior director of product security at [Cloudflare], has all the operational experience to know what's important to customers. Meanwhile, I built the data pipeline at Cloudflare and did the same at Segment. And so my whole career, I've just been thinking about how to do log processing and scalable event processing. So scale is one problem we won't have here at RunReveal, which is something I can say very confidently. Getting the product right, it's essential to have somebody like that on the team. So it just came out and made a lot of sense.

Jon McLachlan

And so that's so important, that the co-founders on the founding team complement each other and bring their own set of superpowers to the table. And it sounds like you've got the winning formula. So just for all of our investors out there, would you like to share your bank account that we could transfer money into and get that SAFE signed? I don't know. Are you raising?

Alan Braithwaite

We just announced our first raise, right before BSides and RSA.

Jon McLachlan

Oh, great.

Alan Braithwaite

Just enough runway to get us off the ground, and trying to avoid some of the challenges of raising too much. So we're just being very intentional about fundraising. We really just want to focus on building a great product and not have to be too concerned with going out and doing a whole lot of investor relations, or managing all of their expectations.

Jon McLachlan

Exactly. Yeah. The best type of investor is not one that brings money to the table. It's one that brings the opportunities. So at this point, it's all about traction, right? And whenever I think about entrepreneurial journeys, computers are the easy part, because they just do what we tell them to do. It's the people that are kind of maybe a little bit on the more interesting side, like the tricky side, because when you ask people to change their behavior, when you ask for adoption, you're asking people to change their behavior. And we are an interesting bunch. We all are, like, quite irrational and opinionated, and we've got lots of emotions about all sorts of things that oftentimes don't make any sense at all. And so, good luck. Good luck.

Alan Braithwaite

Thank you. Thank you. That's actually why we kind of latched onto SIEM as a category, even though we kind of see ourselves as bigger than that. We realize that people need something familiar to be able to associate us with the features that we're building. So we're on a mission to make SIEM not suck, is what we like to say.

Jon McLachlan

SIEMs that don't suck. A SIEM that doesn't suck. I would love a t-shirt that says that on it. A SIEM that doesn't suck. All right. That's awesome. And speaking of the world of SIEM, there's a bunch of current events happening. So, not too long ago, there was a huge consolidation with Exabeam and LogRhythm merged, and then QRadar and Palo Alto Networks.

Alan Braithwaite

That's right. There's a lot of consolidation happening in the space, which is really interesting to see from our perspective.

Jon McLachlan

So what do you think is happening? What's going on?

Alan Braithwaite

Well, it's a really hard space. Building in this space, it's data-intensive applications. It's a lot of infrastructure to deploy. Historically, with Splunk, you bought an appliance, you installed it, tagged it and started running with that, paying Splunk.

Jon McLachlan

Oh, and speaking of Splunk, it's acquired by Cisco.

Alan Braithwaite

That's right, yeah. Even they... the running joke is that Cisco couldn't afford a Splunk license, so they bought Splunk outright. It was cheaper.

Jon McLachlan

It was cheaper to buy Splunk than to buy a license.

Alan Braithwaite

But, you know, just aside, Splunk's a great product. Obviously, they're hard to disrupt, because there is a massive deployment of Splunk in the world and tons of talent who are trained on Splunk and know how to use Splunk and optimize it. And that's not to be ignored, I think. We took the learning from Splunk itself, the fact that they have Splunk query language. And the more and more we talk to people... so let me take a step back. We're building on top of a database called ClickHouse. So that enables us to not have to build the database like Splunk is, and a lot of the other SIEMs are doing. So that gives us a lot of breathing room. But we realize that security engineers and analysts don't often love using SQL to do their investigations and write their detections. And so Splunk has Splunk query language. Sumo has their own query language, which is similar syntax. Microsoft has Kusto. And so we wrote a language called pql, which is an open source pipe query language which compiles down to SQL. And it can work with any SQL database. It's agnostic towards the back-end SQL database, which is great, because you can use it in other places where you wouldn't be able to use it otherwise. So that's kind of a significant advancement, I think, in this area. But we're learning from our customers and meeting them where they're at. So with Splunk, you know, all the other tools, people wanted that feature. So we went ahead and built it. But getting back to the question, like, what's going on with all the consolidation? It's just a really hard space. Building an infrastructure company is very difficult, because it's very capital intensive. You have to think about your margins. And with the mergers, they're really kind of saying that what they're doing, they need to combine in order to get to the next level. And so I think it's a great opportunity for us, because it's kind of saying that when people go out to buy a SIEM, they're like, let's buy a SIEM. They're all pretty much usage-based in terms of their charging. So people are like, wow, this is pretty expensive. How can we reduce the cost? So they pick up a tool like Cribl. And they realize, oh, we need user entity behavioral analytics in order to be a more effective form of detection. So they pick up something like an Exabeam, or something along those lines. So they pay another vendor for that. And now you've got tons of alerts coming out of your SIEMs. You pick up a product to consolidate those alerts. And now you need a product for automation on top of that. So you pick up a SOAR. So there's just, like, a lot of products in the space that do one thing really well, but it's just kind of insane. Like, they're all products which are means to the same end, which is effective detection and response. Companies, they're all doing the same thing, but they're all different tools. So I think a lot of this consolidation is driven by that, where they need all of the different features from the other companies that they haven't built. And it's going to be interesting to see how they integrate the features from one another to create kind of this unified product experience. So we're also learning from that. And we're trying to build something from the ground up and take the key insight: the product is not the data itself, but the value it provides in the form of building effective detection and response. So to do that, we're just making the management of the data as simple as possible and doing the heavy lifting for our customers, so they can get what they need out of the product instead of dealing with building connectors, normalizing the data, or building out destinations.

Jon McLachlan

Wow. No, it's a great answer. As a security professional and a security operator and co-founder of YSecurity, I go... my co-founder and I and everyone at YSecurity, we go into startups. We help them raise their security posture with an on-demand security team. A detection and response policy and program, and then an implementation, is always part of that. The security alphabet soup of all of the mergers and the acquisitions, it just sounds like a total nightmare to get anything, like, useful, especially for a small company that's ambitious, that's moving fast, that needs to stay on top of their security posture for compliance reasons and doesn't have time to sit there and twiddle little and... precious time and precious dollars on, like, a whole collection of [tools]. And it really makes me want to just try RunReveal. Yeah, yeah, right now. If you can go do that, is that a preferred self-service?

Alan Braithwaite

There's a self-service. You can sign in and start using it. You can connect your CloudTrail logs, you can connect Okta. Anybody, runreveal.com.

Jon McLachlan

Runreveal.com.

Alan Braithwaite

That's right.

Jon McLachlan

Your hero is, a SIEM doesn't have to suck.

Alan Braithwaite

That's right. That's right.

Jon McLachlan

And yeah. It's pretty great. I like the purple colors, too.

Alan Braithwaite

Thank you. We got some, like, red team, blue team, purple teaming.

Jon McLachlan

There we go. Great. I like it. Yeah. Purple's a good color. Not too genderized. What's the best day that you've had so far in your journey at RunReveal?

Alan Braithwaite

I think tomorrow is always the best day. Keeping that positive outlook, being optimistic. But realistically, in seriousness, our customers make this journey worth it. And speaking of onboarding, we will often get on a call with a customer and just start onboarding right away, and finish the onboarding within a call.

Jon McLachlan

Which is... you have a trust center. Look at your trust center.

Alan Braithwaite

Yes.

Jon McLachlan

Oh, you have SOC 2 Type 2.

Alan Braithwaite

We do.

Jon McLachlan

High five. Good job.

Alan Braithwaite

Now we check all the boxes.

Jon McLachlan

No, it's not just about checking the boxes. It's great to see security companies also taking their own in-house security, like, very seriously.

Alan Braithwaite

Of course.

Jon McLachlan

You have hearts here in your trust center. I think that's the first time that I've seen hearts [in a trust center].

Alan Braithwaite

We think security should be fun, too.

Jon McLachlan

I couldn't agree more.

Alan Braithwaite

So we're trying to build a product that really delights the users, and making it so easy to get set up and get running is just, like, seeing people's faces when they realize it was that simple to connect something else.

Jon McLachlan

This is great. So it's like the best day at this point. It's like a surprise day. You could just... the connector fit and it started to do things, and it didn't make too much noise, like false positives, and... the good day, huh?

Alan Braithwaite

Yeah. So any time we're setting up a new customer is a great feeling, and we're here for them, and we really love that.

Jon McLachlan

I feel the love. I appreciate that there's smart people in this world that care deeply about hard problems and share that with the entire security community. So, a huge thank you, Alan. But being a founder is not always, like, sunshine and peaches and roses. Sometimes there's challenging moments. And I'm wondering if you might be able to share, what's the most challenging moment that you've had in your journey so far at RunReveal?

Alan Braithwaite

Yeah. It's hard to pick one most challenging moment at this point. I wouldn't say we have had a most challenging moment yet. Every time we've gone and done a POC with a customer or a prospect, and they determine that it's just not the right fit for them, it stings a little. And so, of course, like, we have high standards for ourselves, but security folks are really critical buyers. And I think rightfully. Often we're missing, like, some such feature here or there that is a deal breaker for them. And that hurts. It's just one reason why we're really aiming to meet folks where they're at and not trying to be too opinionated about the types of features that we're building, and instead letting our customers kind of guide us in the right direction. There is a big learning that we've had on this journey, is that there's no two security organizations that look alike. It is incredible the amount of diversity that organizations have in how they build and operate their security team and their security motion. And it's, I guess, not that surprising when you consider that security is seen as mostly a cost center and not a value add to the business. But as a result, we often don't know what we're going to hear from our customers, of their requirements, until we're on the phone with them and kind of sussing that out and figuring out what it is that they need and how we can help them best. But it's always a little bit challenging to hear: oh, you don't have this feature that we find really critical, so we need to find somebody else to be able to fill that gap. By and large, people are really bought into the vision. I think the fact that we're not a cloud-only SIEM, we allow customers to bring their own database. Data residency is a big front-of-mind problem for us, especially in the security space.

Jon McLachlan

Huge, yeah. Huge.

Alan Braithwaite

So by allowing our customers to bring their own database, we're kind of fitting that space where a lot of the SIEMs that have, in the... started five to ten years ago, are cloud-first or cloud-only SIEMs. Make it really difficult to justify folks buying them, which is why we see a lot of companies deciding to do the crazy thing and build their own SIEMs, because the other on-prem options just cost way too much. So we're kind of finding where it makes sense.

Jon McLachlan

You're a sweet spot. You found a sweet spot. The sweet spot is, like: A, you can own your data, put that wherever you want. That could be your data center, that could be your own VPC, that could be, like, a joint VPC, probably. Or if you don't care, I'm sure you'd be happy to host it.

Alan Braithwaite

However, exactly. And that's the big thing, too. If you don't want to host your own, like, we'll handle it for you as well. For a lot of folks, they're not big enough to have their own dedicated ClickHouse cluster.

Jon McLachlan

Which is the ClickHouse. It's an interesting [pick]. I'm sure there was a lot of thought that went into it. Can you [walk] us a little bit on why you're looking at the...

Alan Braithwaite

ClickHouse has been a great partner for us so far. We have a lot of experience with it from Cloudflare and Segment. Cloudflare was a very early adopter of it, pretty much as soon as it got open-sourced back in 2016. And I was honestly initially a skeptic. I was a bit dogmatic about how I viewed databases and what was necessary, and the fact that it didn't have transactions out of the box made me very skeptical that it could actually provide value, so to speak. And I was very quickly proven wrong. We had some talented engineers at Cloudflare who deployed it, and I got to see firsthand the power that it could provide for doing things like analytics. And so I was kind of a fly on the wall and helped consult some on that project, but wasn't ever developing on it. And so when I went to Segment, I actually kind of brought it over and pushed to build some products on it. At Segment, I did a Hack Week project where I built some customer-facing observability tools, which we called product observability, to help our customers at Segment better understand how their data is flowing through Segment. So things like being able to tell how many properties are being dropped from your JSON events, for GDPR reasons, or PII, that sort of thing. So it was really important to our customers to be able to see that. And there was no database out there that could handle the high-cardinality data sets that ClickHouse can handle. So we started out as a Hack Week project, made it into a full project, and now it's deployed widely within Twilio, which acquired Segment in 2020. When looking at databases, it wasn't... there was a lot of thought that went into it, but it was, like, thought that happened previously. And it was pretty obvious to me when starting that it was going to be a great option. And like I said, they've been great partners throughout, and they're very supportive, and I highly recommend checking them out, even if you're not...

Jon McLachlan

Just for all of our listeners, I looked at their Wikipedia. ClickHouse is an open source column-oriented database management system for online analytical processing, like you were just talking about, Alan. It allows users to generate analytic reports using SQL queries in real time. Plus, it's used in Cloudflare, it's used in Segment now, because you brought it over to Segment. So it's very powerful, very proven technology.

Alan Braithwaite

Yeah, thanks for clarifying that. Sometimes I get so excited about it, I forget to [explain] it.

Jon McLachlan

No, it's good. It's good to get into the detail and to hear the story that goes along with the technology. Yeah. So it's really good at analytics, online analytical processing, and it's kind of described as, like, an open source, more affordable and faster Snowflake. So if you fast forward into the future and you look at RunReveal and it's just a smashing success, help us see what that looks like from your perspective. What does your success look like?

Alan Braithwaite

Yeah. So for us, in the short term, our success is really just helping customers detect suspicious and malicious activities happening in their networks, and to detect those faster. But long term, we believe that, like we discussed earlier, there's just so many security tools out there that are doing so many things, but they all have one commonality: they all depend on good data. So long term, we want to build security tools that require those data-intensive applications and could benefit from an open and extensible data platform. We learned very early on that selling to overworked security teams, just having the platform is not sufficient. So we really want to build useful tools on top of the platform to kind of activate that data and give more value out of the box, and not just be, like, this security data platform, but instead have this collection of tools that are really useful to security teams and help businesses improve their security posture across the board. And so we're working towards that goal and that vision, and just want to help security teams be more effective in their roles.

Jon McLachlan

Amazing. Thank you for sharing. And would you say that there was a book, or maybe a movie, that you read or you watched at a very impressionable age that just significantly changed the way that you see the world? You wouldn't be the same person today without that perspective.

Alan Braithwaite

Yeah. So thinking back, there's a lot, of course. Big into cyberpunk, but I chose something that's not really cyberpunk. Something that really changed me at a young age was reading a book called Slaughterhouse-Five by Kurt Vonnegut. It's kind of a classic anti-war novel, but it also explores themes of free will and the nature of time and space. And through the main character's journey, it uses dark humor and science fiction to kind of challenge the conventional narratives and prompt reflection on, like, trauma and the randomness of life. And it just kind of altered my philosophy towards how I think about the world. And it almost unintentionally has these Buddhist themes of being present and just really not dwelling too much on the past or the future, but instead working on yourself and being [present]. I dunno, it's hard to put into words, really. But it was really...

Jon McLachlan

Are you Buddhist?

Alan Braithwaite

No, I wouldn't consider myself Buddhist, but I do practice mindfulness. I am very interested to learn more about Buddhist practices, but that's more because I think there's a lot to learn from Eastern philosophy that we don't typically get taught in Western culture, just in terms of being content with what you have and not desiring too much out of the world, seeing what you can get back.

Jon McLachlan

I mean, in some sense, in some very concrete sense, the past is done and the future is not here yet. And the only thing that we ever have is this very moment.

Alan Braithwaite

Exactly. Yeah. And so the book, through humor and science fiction, kind of explores those themes.

Jon McLachlan

Spectacular. Well, Alan, it's been amazing to have you on the show.

Alan Braithwaite

Likewise, thanks for having me. It's really a pleasure.

Jon McLachlan

No, thank you so much for sharing your insights and just a little bit about your journey at RunReveal, and some vulnerable moments and some good laughs. Would you like to get coffee and coffee?

Alan Braithwaite

Yes. I'm in the mood for a coffee now.

Jon McLachlan

Well, now that you're back in the Bay Area, you can swing by and we could grab another coffee. If our listeners are interested in trying out RunReveal, there will be links in the description. There's also links to Alan's LinkedIn profile, my LinkedIn profile. And, would you like to leave our listeners with any final words of wisdom?

Alan Braithwaite

[You] put me on the spot.

Jon McLachlan

I know. I didn't put this in the show notes.

Alan Braithwaite

Mm-hmm. Hakuna matata, I guess.

Jon McLachlan

Hakuna matata, I love it.

Alan Braithwaite

The Lion King was actually my favorite children's movie growing up, and so that probably had a big influence, too. It means no worries, of course.

Jon McLachlan

What a wonderful [phrase].

Alan Braithwaite

Yeah, you just gotta kind of roll with things and take things as they come.

Jon McLachlan

Now that song is gonna be stuck in my head.

Alan Braithwaite

You're welcome.

Jon McLachlan

Thank you so much.

Alan Braithwaite

Of course. Thanks for having me. It's been an absolute pleasure.

Jon McLachlan

Thank you so much, Alan. Thanks so much for dedicating so much of your life to solving these hard problems for the entire security community. And thanks for joining on the show, and sharing a little bit about your journey. You'll have to do it again. And thanks to all of our listeners for tuning in to another episode of The Security Podcast of Silicon Valley. I'm your host, Jon McLachlan. This is a YSecurity production. Thank you.

FAQ

Questions this episode answers

What is RunReveal?
On the tape Alan calls it a security data platform: it integrates directly with SaaS applications and cloud providers, normalizes the audit logs they produce, pulls out the signals that matter such as logins and API token creation, and lets a security engineer build detections and useful alerts without sifting through terabytes of raw data. The company reinvented every component of a SIEM from scratch to make it simple to use and easy to manage, and chose not to build its own database, running on ClickHouse instead. Since September 1, 2026, RunReveal is part of ClickHouse.
Why does Alan Braithwaite say every SIEM buyer ends up with five tools?
Because SIEMs charge by usage. The bill prompts a pipeline tool to cut ingest, then behavioral analytics for better detections, then a product to consolidate the flood of alerts, then a SOAR to automate the response. Each is a patch on the one before, and all of them exist to do the same job, detection and response. Alan reads the 2024 consolidation, Exabeam with LogRhythm and QRadar into Palo Alto Networks, as vendors combining the features they never built.
Why did RunReveal build on ClickHouse instead of building a database?
Alan had operated ClickHouse at Cloudflare, which adopted it almost as soon as it was open-sourced in 2016, and at Segment, where his Hack Week product-observability project on ClickHouse became a platform used across Twilio. He was initially skeptical because it had no transactions out of the box and was "very quickly proven wrong." Not building the database gave RunReveal room to focus on what detection and response engineers need, including an open source query language.
What is bring-your-own-database and why does it matter?
RunReveal lets a customer keep its security data in a ClickHouse cluster it controls, in its own data center or cloud account, with RunReveal running the product on top. Alan says data residency is a front-of-mind problem for security buyers and that cloud-only SIEMs are hard to justify, which is why companies build their own. After the ClickHouse acquisition the company said bring-your-own-database stays available.
How did RunReveal start?
As a honeypot and canary company, similar to Thinkst Canary, with the singular goal of helping people detect breaches more easily. Buyers did not know how to fit canaries into a budget, so the founders re-analyzed what they were doing and realized the data pipeline they had built for honeypot events looked, if you squinted, like a security log pipeline. They ran the numbers, saw they could build a better SIEM at a lower price, and did not look back.
Who are Alan Braithwaite and Evan Johnson?
Alan is RunReveal's co-founder and chief technology officer. He was a systems engineer at Cloudflare from 2014 to 2017, where he scaled the event pipeline from 1.5 million to more than 10 million events a second, and a staff software engineer at Segment from 2017 to 2022. Evan Johnson, the co-founder and chief executive, has worked in security his whole career, including at Cloudflare under Joe Sullivan. The two met at Cloudflare and worked together at both companies.
What is pql?
An open source pipelined query language, released by RunReveal in February 2024 under the Apache 2.0 license, that compiles to SQL and works with any SQL database. Alan says security analysts do not love writing SQL for investigations and detections, and the incumbents answered that with proprietary languages such as Splunk's SPL and Microsoft's Kusto that also lock customers in. pql is the open alternative, and a team that leaves takes its queries with it.
What happened to RunReveal after this episode?
It shipped enrichments, Sigmalite, a free Okta tier, a Model Context Protocol server, an AI investigation chat, a $7 million seed in July 2025, an autonomous investigation agent in February 2026, a Kubernetes deployment, object storage search and pipelines that mask personal data before storage. On June 16, 2026 Databricks agreed to buy Panther, and on September 1, 2026 ClickHouse acquired RunReveal, calling it an acceleration rather than a disruption for customers.
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